Perfect. Unfortunate that news of his death drowned out coverage of a shooting at Evergreen High School in Colorado. Where two innocents were shot. The details are hard to come by because of the never-ending Kirk coverage., But it appears that two girls were shot by another student. The shooter and one of the girls are critical. Not one word on MSNBC, not even a mention on the Kyron. Shame on the MSM.
I’m channeling my mother (z”l) in saying “please don’t let the shooter be….” Fill in the blank. For Mom and me it’s a Liberal, someone Jewish, Black, Muslim, Asian American, LGBTQIA, immigrant, or anyone at whom they throw hate. Kirk will be a martyr no matter what. Others of us will live in greater fear if so. Guns, hate, promoting hate… they could put a stop to it. They won’t.
Yes. You’re correct, Paul. To put a stop would mean finding empathy, changing ALL their tactics, etc. They “added logs” by JD going to Utah v NY on this day made sacred by international terrorists; flags lowered through the weekend - because Kirk is alleged to have ‘spoken truth’, making hate the platform.
Hate is their platform, and has been a growing part of the platform since Nixon's "southern strategy".
Their problem, and the reason why they are so vehement now, is because hate just isn't enough any more. Hatred of black people doesn't do it now, so they added in immigrants (even though they want them) and they added in gays and lesbians, and they still have to lie about their real interests. Trump lied SO HARD about prices it was unreal.
Many of the MAGA crowd won't vote in any election where Trump isn't running. When he's gone, they won't vote any more because the hero will be gone. Trump's current life expectancy, nearly as I can figure, is 83.7. And that's not accounting for his high stress lifestyle. He'll be lucky to finish four years.
I think the hate is so entrenched that when he’s gone, it will live on.
And @Paul, the “Dixiecrats” did a fine job of hate and they became Republicans. That’s my earliest memory and my history lessons are not top of mind. We know that rights for those enslaved even when freed were limited. So hate has been America’s platform hasn’t it?
Hate is wearing out as a political tool. That's why they keep adding more people to hate, because it's not working like it did in the past.
On top of that, the main engine of the propaganda machine is running low on gas. It's very clear that 24/7 cable news channels are no longer profitable. I just do not believe that a fragmented gang of bloggers and bloviators will ever command the same level of reach. Pretty good chance that 24/7 cable news will die in a decade or less.
Joan, I saw one photo, and it looked to me like a flag and either a gun or the state of Florida over the front of the flag. Guns and Florida look a lot the same to me. Could be my eyes, could be my TV, could be I'm just too damn old. Hard to know anymore!
Joan, I was just on Facebook and someone posted a photo of a shirt she saw online that looks like what he was wearing - it's a flag with an eagle, wings extended sort of behind it, like it's landing, and the head sort of lowered. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. It looks MUCH more like it than a gun or Florida! LOL!
Well stated, but you know that the Maga folk will think you are an asshole and I know you are fine with it, just like I am when my family says the same to me for not being a Fox Zombie!!!
I will not celebrate anyone's death--no, not even THAT one 🍊 --but when someone who does more harm than good passes, I do breathe a sigh of relief. My hope is that his children will grow up to have a more humane approach to not only gun control but to their fellow humans overall.
I read somewhere that Charlie Kirk's death was the 46th school shooting of 2025, and the 47th occurred in Colorado just moments after this one. He died protecting his murderer's God-given rights and will be martyred for it. He wasn't a decent human but I can empathize because I feel I am a decent human. Maybe thoughts but no prayers from me.
The real Karma (as commonly used) in this case is that Kirk is the perfect example of why there are (and always have been) limits on the First and Second Amendments.
That clever lawyers have managed to do end runs around the clear intent AND PRACTICE of those Amendments simply means that we either reinforce the original intent or we revoke them in whole or in part. Modifying the First to clarify that intentional lies and slander are not protected speech would do much to chill the current boiling pot. Modifying the Second to expressly state that states can restrict gun carry and ownership as they please, would also do much. To hear Republicans talk nowadays, you'd think they never heard of the Sullivan Act.
I think the 48th was not fatal. A midshipman at the Naval Academy was shot during some kind of SWATting incident. Keeping my eye on Md papers to find out more.
Violence except for self-defense is wrong. This nation, nay, the entire world is a tinderbox now with thus, Russia overflying Poland with drones and Israel bombing a building in Qatar.
I would wager you much, that many LGBTQ+ folks would say Kirk's death was self defense. Not saying I'd agree, but there is an argument to be made there, and it's not easily dismissed without simply ignoring who Kirk was.
I also don't wish bad things on anybody, even people I really don't like. It's not right. Probably means that I am a woke weeny or something, but I don't care.
Still shaking my head. In the category of you really can’t make this up:
the irony of being killed at the same time you are spouting your support for the 2nd amendment.
The irony is indeed thick.
Excellent blog!!
Perfect. Unfortunate that news of his death drowned out coverage of a shooting at Evergreen High School in Colorado. Where two innocents were shot. The details are hard to come by because of the never-ending Kirk coverage., But it appears that two girls were shot by another student. The shooter and one of the girls are critical. Not one word on MSNBC, not even a mention on the Kyron. Shame on the MSM.
I have more sympathy for the students at the school in Denver than for that stupid man.
The MSM is driven by the need to garner clicks and hits. This is surely doing that.
Bingo, Clay. Just perfect
I’m channeling my mother (z”l) in saying “please don’t let the shooter be….” Fill in the blank. For Mom and me it’s a Liberal, someone Jewish, Black, Muslim, Asian American, LGBTQIA, immigrant, or anyone at whom they throw hate. Kirk will be a martyr no matter what. Others of us will live in greater fear if so. Guns, hate, promoting hate… they could put a stop to it. They won’t.
I don't think they could put a stop to it, but they surely could quit throwing logs on the fire.
Yes. You’re correct, Paul. To put a stop would mean finding empathy, changing ALL their tactics, etc. They “added logs” by JD going to Utah v NY on this day made sacred by international terrorists; flags lowered through the weekend - because Kirk is alleged to have ‘spoken truth’, making hate the platform.
Hate is their platform, and has been a growing part of the platform since Nixon's "southern strategy".
Their problem, and the reason why they are so vehement now, is because hate just isn't enough any more. Hatred of black people doesn't do it now, so they added in immigrants (even though they want them) and they added in gays and lesbians, and they still have to lie about their real interests. Trump lied SO HARD about prices it was unreal.
Many of the MAGA crowd won't vote in any election where Trump isn't running. When he's gone, they won't vote any more because the hero will be gone. Trump's current life expectancy, nearly as I can figure, is 83.7. And that's not accounting for his high stress lifestyle. He'll be lucky to finish four years.
God, I hope you're right!
I think the hate is so entrenched that when he’s gone, it will live on.
And @Paul, the “Dixiecrats” did a fine job of hate and they became Republicans. That’s my earliest memory and my history lessons are not top of mind. We know that rights for those enslaved even when freed were limited. So hate has been America’s platform hasn’t it?
Hate is wearing out as a political tool. That's why they keep adding more people to hate, because it's not working like it did in the past.
On top of that, the main engine of the propaganda machine is running low on gas. It's very clear that 24/7 cable news channels are no longer profitable. I just do not believe that a fragmented gang of bloggers and bloviators will ever command the same level of reach. Pretty good chance that 24/7 cable news will die in a decade or less.
They’ve now put out another photo of a “person of interest.” I am trying to see better the image on the shirt. And am anxious.
Joan, I saw one photo, and it looked to me like a flag and either a gun or the state of Florida over the front of the flag. Guns and Florida look a lot the same to me. Could be my eyes, could be my TV, could be I'm just too damn old. Hard to know anymore!
It did look like a gun in the shape of FL. We may watch pbs news tonight and mute any MAGAts.
Joan, I was just on Facebook and someone posted a photo of a shirt she saw online that looks like what he was wearing - it's a flag with an eagle, wings extended sort of behind it, like it's landing, and the head sort of lowered. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. It looks MUCH more like it than a gun or Florida! LOL!
I thought the shirt had on it an American flag, an eagle, and DJT (!). 😳
I didn't see your comment, Jean, until after I supplemented my response to Joan above. I think you're right about the eagle!
Well stated, but you know that the Maga folk will think you are an asshole and I know you are fine with it, just like I am when my family says the same to me for not being a Fox Zombie!!!
I will not celebrate anyone's death--no, not even THAT one 🍊 --but when someone who does more harm than good passes, I do breathe a sigh of relief. My hope is that his children will grow up to have a more humane approach to not only gun control but to their fellow humans overall.
Wow! 71 comments. Thanks, Peezeheads.
Yes, your excellent 'toon got us started. We had quite an insightful discussion going on.
I read somewhere that Charlie Kirk's death was the 46th school shooting of 2025, and the 47th occurred in Colorado just moments after this one. He died protecting his murderer's God-given rights and will be martyred for it. He wasn't a decent human but I can empathize because I feel I am a decent human. Maybe thoughts but no prayers from me.
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The real Karma (as commonly used) in this case is that Kirk is the perfect example of why there are (and always have been) limits on the First and Second Amendments.
That clever lawyers have managed to do end runs around the clear intent AND PRACTICE of those Amendments simply means that we either reinforce the original intent or we revoke them in whole or in part. Modifying the First to clarify that intentional lies and slander are not protected speech would do much to chill the current boiling pot. Modifying the Second to expressly state that states can restrict gun carry and ownership as they please, would also do much. To hear Republicans talk nowadays, you'd think they never heard of the Sullivan Act.
I think the 48th was not fatal. A midshipman at the Naval Academy was shot during some kind of SWATting incident. Keeping my eye on Md papers to find out more.
Case of mistaken identity. Glad the outcome was non-fatal.
Link:
https://www.thebanner.com/community/criminal-justice/naval-academy-shooting-mistaken-identity-annapolis-maryland-YMLLVAL365FKPO57XNLR3TCDCA/
USNI News said there was no active shooter. And yet, a SWAT team showed up. What else could it have been?
I’ll not be flying my flag at half mast…
Spot on. Thank you.
Perfection.
Violence except for self-defense is wrong. This nation, nay, the entire world is a tinderbox now with thus, Russia overflying Poland with drones and Israel bombing a building in Qatar.
I would wager you much, that many LGBTQ+ folks would say Kirk's death was self defense. Not saying I'd agree, but there is an argument to be made there, and it's not easily dismissed without simply ignoring who Kirk was.
Oh no! You forgot to add the thoughts and prayers part!
when I heard about this, that was the first thing I did "thoughts and prayers" because that's JUST what we do.
I also don't wish bad things on anybody, even people I really don't like. It's not right. Probably means that I am a woke weeny or something, but I don't care.
Really annoying things (for them), sure...
Sometimes it's really good to be a 'woke weeny'. :) Don't stop!
Spot on...sad subject for our country.